I'm recovering from a rough afternoon. The day started great...things were so quiet with Ryan back at Kindergarten. Kaylin colored, the baby cooed, I did a light workout on the Wii that we got for Christmas, I even ran to the grocery store before our play date with Kaylin's school friends at 10:30. All was well with the world.
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Until Ryan got home. Now, this is not all his fault, but going back to school after two weeks off meant there was some deprogramming that needed to happen when he got home. Same house, same rules. I also should mention that I took a dead-to-the-world nap for 30 minutes and woke up at 3:01, just moments before Ryan walked in the door from the bus stop. So yes, I was a little groggy and wasn't quite ready for his after school energy.
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I should also mention that (in an effort to keep my mom sane this weekend while she takes on the daily marathon of caring for my three children) I've been trying to "help" Jason fall asleep on his own without his pacifier. I put him to sleep with it, but if he spits it out or wakes up fussy, I don't put it back in his mouth like I was doing previously. Because what I've realized is that he can already go all night without food. He hasn't had a middle of the night feeding in over a week. That's the good news. But when he does wake up and cry, I've been getting up at 3am, 5am, whenever, and popping the pacifier back in his mouth so he can drift blissfully back off to sleep. I don't want my mom to have to do that. Waking up refreshed each day is going to be essential to her surviving this little adventure she agreed to take this weekend.
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I know not everyone agrees with the "cry it out" method, so I'm not trying to open up a debate here. Believe me...I hate it. I HATE this process. Hate. It. Ryan and Kaylin took a miserable two days of crying it out before I saw the fruits of my torture. And if I hadn't have seen progress at just that moment, I would have given up. I can't handle crying for any length of time. Pure. Torture. Especially when it's your own child!!! But I know the benefits: putting a sleepy, yet fully alert, infant in their crib to fall asleep on their own is incredibly freeing. Jason is now on day three of crying himself to sleep and I don't know if I can take this anymore. He's exhausted. I'm emotionally drained. And I'm so sick of hearing everyone ask, "Are you sure he's not hungry?"
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Okay, that was a tangent I was not expecting to take. Sorry! And please don't yell at me in the comments about what a horrible mother I am for letting my babies cry themselves to sleep for a few days of their lives. I can't handle criticism at this point in the process!
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Back to the point of my post. I am bound and determined to teach my kids self control. They (specifically Ryan right now) have a really hard time with certain boundaries and I'm suddenly more aware of the excessive complaining. It might be new, but I honestly think I might be finally realizing that they express their displeasure a little too often. So I'm ready to work on their heart attitudes.
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For instance, they decline real food but will whine that they're hungry and want a snack or sweet treat. I'm big on eating meals at mealtime and not grazing all day, so I'll remind them that the next meal is at X:00 and if they're hungry early, I'll serve them now. The newest one is "I'm bored." That showed up yesterday. It began as, "I'm lonely, will someone play with me?" and it turned into "I'm bored" yesterday when Ryan lost privileges to the Wii for a few days. THIS is why I'm so anti-technology. Somehow, Ryan has forgotten how to entertain himself now that he's experienced the wonderment that is the Wii. Which is the newest string of never ending questions, by the way. "Can I play the Wii? What about now? Now, Mommy? Can I play it now?" It's as bad as, "Are we there yet?" over and over in the car.

How hilarious is this picture? Kaylin was literally cheering the guys on as they played Wii boxing last week.
I'm so sick of the complaining. I want to raise children with a grateful heart and an attitude of contentment. I completely see how this correlates to teaching self-control. Just because you're bored, doesn't mean you need to say it out loud. Find something to do, get creative, be content with ideas presented. If you're truly hungry, an early dinner should sound delicious. No need to beg for a snack or another alternative or my new favorite, "I'm hungry for a Hershey's Kiss." Uh huh, sure you are.
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I recently read up on teaching your child self-control and found this site that offers age-by-age suggestions. I was specifically looking for ideas on how to get Kaylin to stop screaming when she's upset at Ryan. "Kaylin, no screaming," "inside voice, please" and "use your words" are mantras around here. Anyway, this bit of the website caught my attention:
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Until Ryan got home. Now, this is not all his fault, but going back to school after two weeks off meant there was some deprogramming that needed to happen when he got home. Same house, same rules. I also should mention that I took a dead-to-the-world nap for 30 minutes and woke up at 3:01, just moments before Ryan walked in the door from the bus stop. So yes, I was a little groggy and wasn't quite ready for his after school energy.
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I should also mention that (in an effort to keep my mom sane this weekend while she takes on the daily marathon of caring for my three children) I've been trying to "help" Jason fall asleep on his own without his pacifier. I put him to sleep with it, but if he spits it out or wakes up fussy, I don't put it back in his mouth like I was doing previously. Because what I've realized is that he can already go all night without food. He hasn't had a middle of the night feeding in over a week. That's the good news. But when he does wake up and cry, I've been getting up at 3am, 5am, whenever, and popping the pacifier back in his mouth so he can drift blissfully back off to sleep. I don't want my mom to have to do that. Waking up refreshed each day is going to be essential to her surviving this little adventure she agreed to take this weekend.
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I know not everyone agrees with the "cry it out" method, so I'm not trying to open up a debate here. Believe me...I hate it. I HATE this process. Hate. It. Ryan and Kaylin took a miserable two days of crying it out before I saw the fruits of my torture. And if I hadn't have seen progress at just that moment, I would have given up. I can't handle crying for any length of time. Pure. Torture. Especially when it's your own child!!! But I know the benefits: putting a sleepy, yet fully alert, infant in their crib to fall asleep on their own is incredibly freeing. Jason is now on day three of crying himself to sleep and I don't know if I can take this anymore. He's exhausted. I'm emotionally drained. And I'm so sick of hearing everyone ask, "Are you sure he's not hungry?"
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Okay, that was a tangent I was not expecting to take. Sorry! And please don't yell at me in the comments about what a horrible mother I am for letting my babies cry themselves to sleep for a few days of their lives. I can't handle criticism at this point in the process!
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Back to the point of my post. I am bound and determined to teach my kids self control. They (specifically Ryan right now) have a really hard time with certain boundaries and I'm suddenly more aware of the excessive complaining. It might be new, but I honestly think I might be finally realizing that they express their displeasure a little too often. So I'm ready to work on their heart attitudes.
.
For instance, they decline real food but will whine that they're hungry and want a snack or sweet treat. I'm big on eating meals at mealtime and not grazing all day, so I'll remind them that the next meal is at X:00 and if they're hungry early, I'll serve them now. The newest one is "I'm bored." That showed up yesterday. It began as, "I'm lonely, will someone play with me?" and it turned into "I'm bored" yesterday when Ryan lost privileges to the Wii for a few days. THIS is why I'm so anti-technology. Somehow, Ryan has forgotten how to entertain himself now that he's experienced the wonderment that is the Wii. Which is the newest string of never ending questions, by the way. "Can I play the Wii? What about now? Now, Mommy? Can I play it now?" It's as bad as, "Are we there yet?" over and over in the car.

How hilarious is this picture? Kaylin was literally cheering the guys on as they played Wii boxing last week.
I'm so sick of the complaining. I want to raise children with a grateful heart and an attitude of contentment. I completely see how this correlates to teaching self-control. Just because you're bored, doesn't mean you need to say it out loud. Find something to do, get creative, be content with ideas presented. If you're truly hungry, an early dinner should sound delicious. No need to beg for a snack or another alternative or my new favorite, "I'm hungry for a Hershey's Kiss." Uh huh, sure you are.
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I recently read up on teaching your child self-control and found this site that offers age-by-age suggestions. I was specifically looking for ideas on how to get Kaylin to stop screaming when she's upset at Ryan. "Kaylin, no screaming," "inside voice, please" and "use your words" are mantras around here. Anyway, this bit of the website caught my attention:
By learning self-control, kids can make appropriate decisions and respond to stressful situations in ways that can yield positive outcomes. For example, if you say that you're not serving ice cream until after dinner, your child may cry, plead, or even scream in the hopes that you will give in. But with self-control, your child can understand that a temper tantrum means you'll take away the ice cream for good and that it's wiser to wait patiently.I've mentioned this before, but my "no" always means "no." Yes means yes, no means no and maybe usually means no. And if I say, "not now" or "maybe later," and they continue to pout, I take away the privilege altogether. I'm not a fun mom when it comes to that stuff! I don't give in with whining and begging, so it always shocks me that my kids (especially Ryan after FIVE years) still continue to plead for me to change my mind. Granted, Ryan's five. Kaylin's only three. I know that they're still little, but I'm so over the argumentativeness. (wow, that's a long word) I'm ready for agreeable children. Again...CONTENT children. It's so important to me.
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I feel like I'm doing my part. I'm a fairly consistent parent, sometimes to a fault. I usually take time during teachable moments and explain how they should properly respond. I try to set the example of what contentedness and gratefulness look like. I point it out in others. I gently remind them, "the answer is no, don't ask again," when I see the injustice in their eyes.
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Typing this all out is making me realize that I'm hoping for too much from them at this age. They're BOTH just so...stinkin'...persistent. It's enough to drive me crazy!
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And today, day three of my cry-it-out battle with the baby, I am emotionally exhausted from it all. But I think I'm still going to choose this area to work on this week. Somehow, they've established the bad habit of complaining and I'm done listening to it. That's really what it is: a habit that needs to be broken and redirected.
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I'm open to hearing wisdom from the other parents out there. What's worked for you?















10 comments:
I hear ya! And good job on letting Jason cry it out. You've got to at some point, so why not now. As far as complaining...Sophie isn't too bad at this, she just whines about things sometimes or even when making simple requests or comments. So, the first time she whines, I ignore her. About half the time this works and she speaks in a normal voice. If she continues, I remind her that I can't hear her when she's whining. Then she speaks normally. I don't mind the occasional complaint, but if you do it while whining, well, I can't hear you!
BTW, still praying for you.
From one Hard-Ass Cruel Nazi Mom to another, you KNOW you're not going to hear criticism on 'crying it out' from me! And as for persistent, well, you also know my Little Cub has the will of a whole TEAM of oxen, so I'm also in the trenches there with you.
I always just try to remember that even though I may have been consistent for nearly five years (like you with your 'no always means no'), we shouldn't be too surprised they haven't completely 'gotten it' yet....their brains are still working on developing. It's as much a physical development as it is social. Nobody expects Kaylin's ovaries to be giving her periods yet, right? The brain is just another organ in their growing bodies, and we need to remember it has its own work to do in maturing. Those synapses don't connect themselves!
So yes, you keep consistent, you stick to your values, you bombard them over and over and over and over and over again with what you expect in your household, and one day, when those neurons are finally able to fire that electricity the right way, your kids will be able to say 'Oh! So THAT'S what Mom's been banging on about all these years! I get it now!'
The fruits of your labor WILL pay off...eventually.
Until then, I figure I might as well have fun with the torture, and I play the passive-aggressive role. When LC starts whining I play dumb. 'What, honey? What did you say? Oh I'm sorry, I don't understand whining. Maybe if you try really hard to talk to me like a normal human being I might have a clue. Good luck, sweetheart.'
I'm so evil! :-)
PS - At least a dozen (or two) times by Jason's age LC cried himself horse for anywhere from 1-3 HOURS. And yes, all other needs had been met (food, burp, diaper, comfort, etc). Falling asleep is the one thing you cannot do for your children. Remember, LC 3 months old when I travelled to the States BY MYSELF with him the first time, and he stayed awake for ELEVEN HOURS during the flights. Then proceeded to scream an additional TWO HOURS SOLID on the plane, all because he was tired. If they need sleep but won't give in, there's nothing you can do to make it happen. Just support him with a kiss every now and then and by making sure he's comfortable. The rest of it is his (i.e. his body's) job to learn how to do. You'll get there!
Hi Katie,
I'd like to email you with A) a suggestion re: the pacifier and B) something about scrapbooking, but when I press "email" on your blog it takes me to Outlook ,which I don't have. Are you able to email me at gdayfromla at gmail.com and I'll email you back.
BTW, I'm not some random stalker, I'm the "Jennifer" who wrote you a few months ago after we were at Disneyland the same days, etc.
And I'm so sick of hearing everyone ask, "Are you sure he's not hungry?"
I HATE that sentence. I used to get it from my in-laws constantly and it drove me nuts. I eventually stopped answering the phone and forbade my husband from repeating any of their "advice". It makes me annoyed even now.
Please know that you have my sympathies right now. I know it's a tough time, but you can do it! My only advice would be to try a lovey or help Jason find his thumb (that was a lifesaver for us!).
http://www.phdinparenting.com/2008/07/05/no-cry-it-out/
We let both Kaiden and Madelyn cry it out and I wouldn't have done it any other way. It is truly awful to hear your kids cry, but they are happy, loved, energentic kids and are now pretty excellent sleepers who don't protest going to bed...much ;) I strongly think that is from letting them learn how to go to sleep on their own. I have a friend that won't let her daughter cry it out and she is 10 months old and STILL gets up about 6 times during the night. I would seriously pull my hair out!
Sounds like you are doing a great job with the other kiddos and handling their requests and/or whining the best way how! I know how exhausting and frustrating it can be, though, repeating yourself a million and one times in one day when the answer is the same as the day before, and the day before that and the day before that!
Hang in there and enjoy your cruise! (Nope, I'm not jealous. Not one bit....LOL!)
I'm glad i'm not the only one starting to pull my hair out because of the whinning and the ENDLESS asking over and over and over, and the I'm hungry when he didn't eat his food...etc...
But then I only have one and he is 3, so i know you have it worse...
However, I'm starting to have 'OH MY I have GOT to find a solution now before it gets way worse' discussions with myself almost daily. At least you stick with your NO always. Sometimes i cave which i know makes it so much worse in the end...but i'm trying!
Good Luck! Hope the kids behave well for your mother while you take your cruise with your hubby!
We got a Wii for Christmas, too! We have all LOVED it. Got a Wii fit from my parents, too. Oh my. That thing kicks tail.
As far as advice, mine is 10 and I'm STILL dealing with self-control issues. Heck, I'm still dealing with self-control issues of my own!
I will say that you have to be STRONG and let that precious little one learn how to fall asleep on his own! BE STRONG, KATIE! :D I have a friend who did not do this and has spent 8 or so years trying to reprogram two of her kids to fall asleep on their own, now 9 and 13!
This is the way we did it with Kiddo: we put him down, he started to cry. We waited just a couple of seconds, then went in and let him know we were there and left the room. He cried again, we waited longer before we went in, etc, etc. We did this until we no longer needed to go in to calm him down. I'm not sure this is translating well, but he learned pretty quickly (meaning a few days) to fall asleep on his own.
And I can say this now that it's behind us...some nights it was torture listening to him cry. But it was SO worth it once he learned!
i agree on the crying it out, oh it is so tough but so worth it when they sleep on there own.
oh can you please come to California and teach me how to do all that you do, you could speak at my mops group and teach all my friends too =) i am so bad at being consistent because by the end of the day i am exhausted, i know crappy excuse...
I didn't let Elliot cry it out. Then when Ethan came along, I let him CIO. I think that says a lot right there. The first method just didn't work that well, so I tried something different the second time. He's been a better sleeper from the get-go.
We're having the same persistant whining issue with Ethan. I thought I would be a nice mom and let them each have a treat tonight. We have some left-over Christmas candy and I said they could choose Kisses or M&Ms. Ethan chose Kisses, ate them, and then spent the next 15 minutes whining about how he really wanted M*Ms. Grr...made me wish I hadn't offered a treat in the first place! Tomorrow night he can have carrots!
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